Subject	your still needs to lose some weight before it can "hang"
Posted by	Hornswoggler on May 06, 2004 at 10:46 PM
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In Reply To	this is why you mod the suspension :) posted by Z PYRATE on May 06, 2004 at 07:22 PM
Message	Isn't the 300ZX TT like 3,550 lbs stock? No amount of springs/shocks are going to overcome that. Also, keep in mind that the driver is VERY important in handling... you need to be able to get the most from your vehicle no matter what it is. Ever heard the phrase: "Mod the driver, not the car"? I have no baseline to judge the Z's handling... I can't help but think you are stretching a bit and would defend your own car to the very death (i.e. my car is the most perfect car in the world, etc.). This was directed towards Z Pyrate as almost everything he says is that the Z is better (ok, I'll give you the straight line argument) but you either don't give sufficient reasoning (like how you mentioned the Z was "nicer" but didn't back it up) or I think your acceleration stories are a bit exagerated or just not representative of the cars themselves.
Follow Ups	Lets have some Fun. 95-99(M3) Vs. 90-96(300ZX). - craigb 15:22:28 05/06/04 TTZ. (n/m) - Zster (Big Red) 15:27:43 05/06/04 Your asking that on a Z32 board?; Trump called,your fired (n/m) - Keith58 15:33:41 05/06/04 LOL!!! Ain't that the truth!! (n/m) - SI 16:29:43 05/06/04 style: Z, performance: toss up, handling: M3 - KILLR300ZX 15:34:50 05/06/04 jw....but why do u think the Z would be better for highway? - shawnc 15:48:46 05/06/04 Numerous reasons... - KILLR300ZX 17:18:58 05/06/04 you mean performance stock right? performance modded: Z wins (n/m) - ScubaSteve 15:53:45 05/06/04 Equally modded the M3 will usually outdo the Z though - SeedyROM (ZCON 2K4!) 16:02:02 05/06/04 Oops...I meant as far as HANDLING - SeedyROM (ZCON 2K4!) 16:03:14 05/06/04 2nd. (n/m) - Z PYRATE 16:09:42 05/06/04 :) btw just pull your motor and r&r the exhaust manifolds - ScubaSteve 16:59:24 05/06/04 for once, I agree w/you 100% (n/m) - fourZero 17:27:08 05/06/04 :) *handshake* (n/m) - ScubaSteve 17:43:15 05/06/04 any man who pulls his own engine deserves a beer - fourZero 18:23:05 05/06/04 A well sorted e36 M3 will be very tough to outhandle! - Hornswoggler 22:29:30 05/06/04 300hp TTZ vs. a 240hp M3 - Z PYRATE 16:02:13 05/06/04 Not around a decreasing radius turn... (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 16:03:57 05/06/04 Please note that he put "performance" separate to "handling" - Z PYRATE 16:09:09 05/06/04 A. It's HEAVILY underrated 240hp - KILLR300ZX 17:10:19 05/06/04 lol @ myself, why did I put "A." in that reply..??? (n/m) - KILLR300ZX 17:19:36 05/06/04 My friends 97 m3 was no match for my Z, stock for stock. (n/m) - Z PYRATE 17:26:50 05/06/04 pretty vague statement... - KILLR300ZX 17:31:03 05/06/04 from 0-150 he would have been waaaaaay back :) - Z PYRATE 19:18:57 05/06/04 They had better brakes too, IMO. (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 17:37:35 05/06/04 Style......TTZ = 2 seat sports car, m3 = 4 seat - Z PYRATE 16:12:14 05/06/04 craigb's TTZ = 4 seat sports car =) (n/m) - MiZZr_E 16:42:30 05/06/04 sports car, HA!! that grocery getter?? SLOW :p (n/m) - hey GotBo0st 17:02:22 05/06/04 How about reliability issues? A friend of mine owned a 99' - SZ32R(Hawaii) 16:16:04 05/06/04 2nd that, a BMW is headache in my book - SuparexTT 16:45:21 05/06/04 The E36 M3s have proven to be pretty stout - KILLR300ZX 17:22:48 05/06/04 E36 is a very reliable car - Hornswoggler 22:39:50 05/06/04 u gotta count handling... - Dynasty Z 16:18:43 05/06/04 this is why you mod the suspension :) - Z PYRATE 19:22:33 05/06/04 your still needs to lose some weight before it can "hang" - Hornswoggler 22:46:06 05/06/04 modded vs modded (suspension), my $$$ is on the M3! (n/m) - Hornswoggler 22:47:03 05/06/04 ive owned both, e36 M3/4 and ttz stage 5+ - Firesauce300ZXTT 18:08:36 05/06/04 I going to find out! - maglito 18:10:17 05/06/04 well ... - Guapo 21:04:50 05/06/04 2nd (n/m) - aliaZ 21:07:54 05/06/04 Just drove his M3 tonight... - maglito 21:18:15 05/06/04 just have fun and be safe (n/m) - Guapo 21:22:56 05/06/04 Should I leave the comp-r's at home to make it fair? :D (n/m) - Hornswoggler 22:50:37 05/06/04 We should both run on the same type of tire to make it fair - maglito 23:09:45 05/06/04 I was gonna drive them to TX! :o - Hornswoggler 23:26:50 05/06/04 Nice sig! (n/m) - maglito 23:36:58 05/06/04 m3 > z - Jjzx (next-gear.com) 18:38:13 05/06/04 I say both are great cars! - Hornswoggler 23:01:24 05/06/04 circuit racing>>> - Fleet 00:33:48 05/07/04
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